Collective Shout releases live footage of rap artist’s vicious tirade against young female activist

Collective Shout has uploaded a YouTube video of US rap artist Tyler the Creator engaging in a vicious tirade against a young female activist during a Sydney all ages gig last night. The footage was recorded by a Collective Shout supporter in the audience.

The 24-year-old anti-violence against women activist has been engaged in the campaign of grassroots movement Collective Shout against the Australian tour of Tyler Gregory Okonma aka Tyler, the Creator. Collective Shout has called on Immigration Minister Brendan O’Connor to revoke his visa.

The woman had expressed her dismay on twitter at the controversial rapper being given a platform in Australia to spread hate speech, with rape and extreme violence against women common themes.

Tyler shared one of her tweets with his 1.7 million followers, many of whom took it as an invitation to prove their devotion to him by bombarding the woman with abuse and threats to rape her. These threats have since been reported to police.

Tyler launched a vicious tirade against her at the Enmore Theatre ‘all ages’ gig as the crowd cheered and punched the air.

“F*cking bitch, I wish she could hear me call her a bitch, too, f*cking whore.

Yeah, I got a sold-out show right now bitch.

Hey this f*cking song is dedicated to you, you f*cking c*nt.”

A rapper on stage with Tyler said to him:

 “You really didn’t like her did you Tyler??”

He replied: “No the fuckin whore. This is the second time they’ve tried to get me kicked out of Australia. I’m still in Australia you f*ckin whore”

Tyler dedicated two songs to her: ‘Domo23’ replete with homophobic abuse about “f*gs”, and ‘Bitch Suck Dick’ which contains the lyrics “You dead bitch, I’m hot as f*ck…Punch a bitch in her mouth just for talkin’ shit”.

One rapper asked concert goers, “How many people are going to kill and rape people after the show?” The audience erupted in applause.

We understand a young woman was sexually assaulted at the concert.

Collective Shout believes Tyler’s behavior last night is more evidence that he is in breach of his visa conditions. He is creating a hostile environment for women and girls by engaging in vilification.

Collective Shout W.A State Coordinator Caitlin Roper contacted Minister O’Connor yesterday to draw his attention to rape threats made by online fans. Read full letter here.

We have had no response to this or earlier correspondence.

Authorities should intervene and cancel performances scheduled for Melbourne (Palace Threatre) tonight and  Brisbane on Saturday. A petition calling on Brisbane venue Eaton Hills Hotel to cancel the event has over 7000 signatures.

Fans cheer as rapper “Tyler the Creator” abuses Australian woman at Sydney show

Rap fans get excited about rape and murder “after the show”

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64 Comments

  1. Carol
    Posted 7 Jun ’13 at 10:24 am | Permalink

    How can this person be allowed a Visa to come to our country and incite violence and hatred towards women? Some may say it is impossible to protect our impressionable young people from this type of music and culture. They see it on Youtube or television. Well, I say revoking his Visa would be a great start. Shame on the promoters who brought him to our shores.

    • lol
      Posted 9 Jun ’13 at 2:49 pm | Permalink

      He says it just to get under the skin of people like you. Listen to the rest of his songs, albums and lyrics before you even say anything at all. Songs like ‘B*tch suck S*ck’ are all a mockeries that made to annoy the older generation and people who thought he couldn’t make it, similar to punk bands that preach about anarchy. The crowd only irrupted in cheers because crowds irrupt in cheers no matter what a performing artist on stage says. Tyler then replied “you guys are stupid, you’re meant to say no”. Has Tyler ever been to jail for raping or murdering someone? No. He isn’t doing this to please anybody, especially not the older generation. Not letting him into the country will do nothing at all, apart from make his fans furious. People are still gong to listen to his music no matter what. And his mother knows exactly what his music is like, and his grandmother actually passed away. I am completely with what ‘angry’ said. I am also a female and I understand the depth of his lyrics of his other songs (which i doubt anyone here has made any further investigation into). Go listen to all his 3 albums cover to cover then make a judgement. YA’LL STOOPID.

    • H Dale
      Posted 15 Jun ’13 at 8:19 am | Permalink

      The comment about this being similar to punk music is a bad comparison. Bands like dead kennedys, black flag etc. had lyrics about social justice, rights for poor workers, the flaws of the American political system. How this is equal to an uneducated persons lyrics about murder and rape is beyond me. This isn’t shocking its boring, low brow dribble designed to take money from youth who think they’re rocking the boat. There is no depth or intelligence to it, how does this better you as a person. 80′s hip hop was about getting yourself in a better place. Today’s hip hop is a childish cartoon joke.

    • lol jokes?
      Posted 18 Jun ’13 at 7:57 pm | Permalink

      Hey lol,

      I can see you are smitten darling. Try and move beyond fan lust and be objective. The guy is out to shock the oldies? Oh dear. I think Elvis might have done that too, a few years back honey. That’s the territory with music, and it’s a good territory.

      Still n all dog – No where before in “shocking the older generation with ya ‘all music” has there ever been hatred to one section of the population, like this guy promotes. Once upon a time his people were slaves. What’s missing in this picture? Compassion, empathy, strong values, recognition of the underdog…. and kick arse music….. Get over it sweetie, stand up for your kind. You are one woman, yeah?

  2. Jan Hawkins Piller
    Posted 7 Jun ’13 at 10:50 am | Permalink

    I think you should send the video to his mother and his grandmother.

    • Yvonne
      Posted 7 Jun ’13 at 2:06 pm | Permalink

      …And if he has a daughter, would he be supporting men doing this to her? He probably would because he is obviously a complete mental case with a very underdeveloped brain. I like the Game of Thrones way of doing things..torture and behead dispicable scum like this.

    • Nate
      Posted 7 Jun ’13 at 9:09 pm | Permalink

      Haha stop being so butt hurt GOLF WANG

    • Susan
      Posted 8 Jun ’13 at 1:03 am | Permalink

      His grandmother died of brain cancer late last year.

  3. Margaret Agnes
    Posted 7 Jun ’13 at 11:00 am | Permalink

    What a disgrace,,if there was an open air meeting promoting this attitude towards women especially about rape then the police would break it up….how can this be classed as entertainment…I am all for freedom of speech but not if it promotes harm to anyone regardless of race creed or sex….. he should never be allowed to perform here…Hmmm wonder how our politicians would feel if their daughter ot grand daughter was attacked by one of these “fans”

  4. Posted 7 Jun ’13 at 11:01 am | Permalink

    These guys are animals. How they have been allowed into Australia is beyond me. Threatening women, inciting rape and murder….deplorable.

    • Carlene Neervoort
      Posted 10 Jun ’13 at 5:34 pm | Permalink

      Hi Marty,
      You are right these guys are evil animals. Would they like it if female rapers incited hate, murder and rape of boys?? I think not. Females are getting a little tired of evil male sexual violence. In some countries, in Africa, women have been raped multiple time and many gang raped. The men in power won’t be happy until every girl/woman on the planet has been raped and I am not exaggerating. Already 1 in 3 women have beened raped, worldwide.

  5. George
    Posted 7 Jun ’13 at 11:15 am | Permalink

    So the Department of Immigration is happy to give Visas to Americans who come here and publicly abuse women, incite violence and rape, but they won’t give Visas to people fleeing persecution and instead choose to vilify them. Send this American trash back NOW!

    • Debbie Jeffrey
      Posted 8 Jun ’13 at 7:57 am | Permalink

      I’m so with you, George. I don’t get it.

    • Rod
      Posted 4 Jan ’14 at 9:58 am | Permalink

      I hope you guys know that he lying about the whole raping and murder of women in one of his song he said it was fiction, besides all the people in he concert wouldn’t just go out and commit heinous crimes after listening to Tyler. Although many may bring the argument of the guy who killed John Lennon after he read J.D Salingers book The Catcher and the Rye.

  6. Cameron Quirk
    Posted 7 Jun ’13 at 11:28 am | Permalink

    As a bloke, I am totally disgusted & horrified at his language & behaviour. If other rappers have their visa rejected or questioned because of crimes they committed why should he be any different. So much for the governments stance on violence towards women.

  7. sarah freeman
    Posted 7 Jun ’13 at 11:37 am | Permalink

    !!!!!!!!!!!!! never never never!!! how did the women feel who were there!!!! awful awful awful
    how could our country have allowed this. Really hope there are no more concerts!!!

    • angry
      Posted 7 Jun ’13 at 2:18 pm | Permalink

      I was a woman who was there. This report is so biased – you can’t actually take it seriously if you have half a brain. Tyler calls everyone names – he refers to his fans as idiots, a**holes, d***heads, everything. He doesn’t attack women, he swears about everything because his fans love him or his not caring attitude, myself included. By the way what actually happened was Tyler said “How many of you will actually go and rape and kill a bitch after this?” to which the crowd was unaware how to respond and just cheered, and then Tyler said “you idiots you’re supposed to say no!”. He was promoting peace. You need to get your facts straight, this report has no basis.

    • Team CS
      Posted 7 Jun ’13 at 2:24 pm | Permalink

      Hi “angry”

      The video is pretty clear and is as you describe. What Tyler is perhaps too daft to realise is that when he raps about rape and murder as often as he does, his fans get pretty excited by the concept, which is why they didn’t give the desired response.

      No comment on the other video? Is he promoting peace there too?

    • George
      Posted 7 Jun ’13 at 2:25 pm | Permalink

      This vile garbage has no place in Australia. Why don’t you and your boyfriend go back together to the United States together?

    • Abagail
      Posted 7 Jun ’13 at 3:03 pm | Permalink

      So, a crowd of people who love Tyler and listen to his music a lot don’t know how to respond when they’re asked if they’re going to go rape and kill a bitch?
      Way to prove our point, angry.

    • lol
      Posted 9 Jun ’13 at 2:51 pm | Permalink

      ANGRY KNOWS WHATS UP.

  8. Paul Pocock
    Posted 7 Jun ’13 at 1:47 pm | Permalink

    ..God awful! What has happened to this country!
    Deport him and his sick rabble..

  9. Yvonne
    Posted 7 Jun ’13 at 1:59 pm | Permalink

    Unbelieveable and tragic. A: that anyone employed in Australia involved in bringing entertainers to Australia has approved this f*ing a*hole to come here. Trace the people in the chain and fire them. B: that there are so many people living among us who pay for a ticket, turn up and endorse such vile messages this psycho is spreading. WTF? I sure as hell don’t know any decent man or woman who even knows who this twat is, if you listen to this s*it, you are messed up in the head too. The women he is rapping about abusing are your sisters, daughters, mothers. Revolting, kick this loser out and send a message to the world, Australia does not support this sort of attitude towards women. GRRRRRR makes me mad and sick at the same time.

  10. Posted 7 Jun ’13 at 2:53 pm | Permalink

    It’s not so long ago that people marched in the streets of Melbourne demanding better treatment and protection of women. This is the antithesis of that march. What was the point of people coming together to make things better when those we give the responsibility to for the protection of the innocent and the community in general pay no heed. Come on ABC show some intestinal fortitude and lead the way in reporting this and putting the Immigration Minister under the spotlight.

  11. KathyD
    Posted 7 Jun ’13 at 2:56 pm | Permalink

    Yvonne. The last thing we need to do is stoop to his vile name calling. While I am deplored by hiim……. You are on the same track by calling him such names. You do our cause no good. Pray for this man. Can you imagine what has happened in his childhood to end up so hate filled. I dare say it would also make us weep with pity.

    • Yvonne
      Posted 8 Jun ’13 at 4:00 am | Permalink

      Same level as a person encouraging rape and brutal treatment of woman? Um..No. Ill pray for him alright. Ill pray that he is held accountable for his sick criminal behaviour. Life is about choices. I have had several major ‘unpleasant’ events in my life but i didn’t choose to do what this a*hole is doing. Making a ‘positive’ choice and looking for the silver lining, knowing there is ALWAYS something to be grateful for is how I continue to deal with the hand I’ve been dealt. You are insulting every person who has been abused by extending this guy an ounce of sympathy or understanding. Deplorable. He shouldn’t be allowed in Australia. Plain and simple.

  12. Balance
    Posted 7 Jun ’13 at 4:07 pm | Permalink

    So I was at the concert last night and while I fully acknowledge that the lyrics are disturbing, they do need to be put within the context of music that should not be taken seriously. How many still believe Black Sabbath should be banned or any other controversial artist of their time? There appears to be an element of moral panic here.

    I think we’re open to having varying views on the matter. One thing about the post is irresponsible with the facts. When Tyler asked the crowd whether they’d engage in rape and other highly immoral activities there were many hands raised to the affirmative. His response was to call them all idiots, to put their hands, down, and reiterate that the correct answer was that they wouldn’t engage in such activities.

    If a girl was sexually assaulted at the concert, Tyler would have some strong things to say to the offender. As should everyone. It’s disingenuous for you to blame Tyler for the actions of someone else. It’s like blaming gun massacres on video games instead of the person who carries them out. If he ever actively condoned the harm of a woman, my response would be very different. He has stated more than once that his work is fiction and not to be taken seriously.

    The problem with an artist like Tyler is not the material per se, but the recipients of said media. Many of us can discern between right and wrong and the depiction of shocking things is hardly endorsement. We as adults watch a violent film and knowing that it’s entertainment and would never think to say the director is endorsing murder or shootouts. This isn’t any different.

    This is the same argument people have against violence in other media. It doesn’t necessarily make people violent, but the danger lies with those that cannot discern between entertainment and what is the right thing to do.

    I do believe as an adult at the concert there are many levels of comprehension when it comes to his music. The real danger isn’t that his lyrics incite hate, it’s that some might comprehend them as incitement. Isn’t that where parents and society are supposed to step in and provide an actual role model, one that isn’t an entertainer?

    I suspect some of you would prefer a nanny state where anything on the nose is taken out of the system and censored. Where we are not required to think for ourselves and determine what is right and wrong. We wouldn’t even need to raise our children to know the difference because one wouldn’t exist. That’s the real danger, by not having any materials we disagree with we lose any ability to decide for ourselves what is moral.

    • Emma
      Posted 7 Jun ’13 at 4:31 pm | Permalink

      “Balance” – do you not think that Tyler and the venues hosting him are part of the “society” that you want to step in and provide an actual role model? Any reason Tyler is exempt?

      And regarding this:

      “One thing about the post is irresponsible with the facts. When Tyler asked the crowd whether they’d engage in rape and other highly immoral activities there were many hands raised to the affirmative. His response was to call them all idiots, to put their hands, down, and reiterate that the correct answer was that they wouldn’t engage in such activities.”

      Irresponsible with the facts? The video is as you say, it is there for everyone to see. The crowd *did* erupt in applause. The point of this video was the fans reaction. We’ve had Tyler defenders either abusing us with sexist, misogynist violent slurs, or imploring us to “look deeply” and “interpret” his lyrics somehow. But what it really comes down to is, his fans are idiots and he has no control over how they perceive his message.

    • tory
      Posted 8 Jun ’13 at 9:15 am | Permalink

      This is more than ‘on the nose’ Emma. As an artist, I will always defend the arts community’s right to creative expression and certainly we are there to challenge the norm and push boundaries, but where those boundaries transgress into glamorising rape, overtly encouraging hatred against a particular gender or promotion of murder – we must take a stand, or lose our freedom to self-censor. Music and art have great power to change and measure society’s values. But with this power comes a responsibility to not use that power to harm. Tyler knows that he preaches to a small group of people who are excited by the topics of rape, murder and misogyny. That there are people out there who find joy or pleasure in these topics should concern us greatly as a society. That’s not a nanny state; its just logic and basic human decency.

    • MartyP
      Posted 14 Jun ’13 at 4:47 pm | Permalink

      Balance,
      Fictional or otherwise there can NEVER be any justification for such lyrics and verbal violence. Stop hiding behind the veil that this is just artistic expression that people need to discern. This is not about people’s discretion. This is pure hatred, pure evil period. There is NO place in our world for such garbage.

  13. Dianne Coyle
    Posted 7 Jun ’13 at 5:09 pm | Permalink

    l would call this vile excuse for a human being GARBAGE,but garbage clearly has more class and intelligence than this pathetic excuse for a man!!! The peice of FIFITH.Then again fiflth also has more class and intelligence.

  14. Adriana
    Posted 7 Jun ’13 at 5:11 pm | Permalink

    Everyone is being really racist.
    Black people are NOT TRASH.

    • Lou
      Posted 14 Jun ’13 at 5:13 pm | Permalink

      You stupid,ignorant little girl..No-one said that black people are trash just this black person. The crap that comes out of the toilet he calls a mouth can and does incite brainless clowns with probable iq’s of 50 to rape and murder women. Every day you read (if you can read that is) in the papers and see on t.v. that some other innocent woman minding her own business is assaulted raped or murdered. You are a woman how can you not understand that decent people are understandably incensed by these sort of lyrics and attitudes. I’d feel the same way if the wanker was white.

  15. Posted 7 Jun ’13 at 7:12 pm | Permalink

    I have written to the Immigration Minister and received no response. Hard to believe that they can be so complacent about violence against women.
    I’m outraged and offended. If ethic or religious groups were spoken about in is way, there would be decisive and immediate action. But women…….silence from the Government!!!

  16. Nate
    Posted 7 Jun ’13 at 9:07 pm | Permalink

    Haha u old woman ain’t got shit on tyler GOLF WANG

  17. Blessing Okeiyi
    Posted 7 Jun ’13 at 9:51 pm | Permalink

    It is unfortunate that rap music which can be very good and energetic is also being used against the very women who promote and support its artist. This rapper needs to be made to understand that it is not in his best interest to turn against his fans. Shame on him!

  18. Eliza
    Posted 7 Jun ’13 at 11:35 pm | Permalink

    I think the people who argue that this is “art” are missing one vital fact. CHILDREN are exposed to this. As adults, yes we can make judgements about “art” (let’s call this rubbish “art” for the sake of argument) but children are supposed to be protected from obscenity. Children and moronic adults just don’t have he capacity to get the subtle nuances of what some may claim is tongue-in-cheek. Therefore they are at risk. We are are supposed to protect children from foreseeable harm. Some of Tyler’s gigs are all ages. Perhaps charge parents with neglect if they take them or allow them to go to his gigs or listen to his music.

  19. Marybeth
    Posted 8 Jun ’13 at 12:43 am | Permalink

    What about the people at the show. Their actions are as bad as his.

  20. Yvonne
    Posted 8 Jun ’13 at 4:09 am | Permalink

    OMG this is not a moral or social debate! Tyler openly tells other people they should rape punch brutalise…woman. WRONG! WRONG WRONG! Ban him and his ‘music’ from this country. Simple.

  21. Posted 8 Jun ’13 at 5:01 am | Permalink

    I think you all are taking Tyler’s comments a bit too seriously. Listen to his music, he literally insults everyone.

    I am a girl from the States and I love Tyler, as do plenty of my male friends. Funny, some of them tend to be the biggest feminists I have ever encountered. Saying that his murder/rape comments are literally driving his fans to commit such crimes is ridiculous. There is a fabric of very intricate sarcasm woven into his lyrics, all you need to do is take a listen.

    Just calm down and try to live and let live. :)

    • Team CS
      Posted 8 Jun ’13 at 9:04 am | Permalink

      Thanks for your comment Leslie.

      There was no mistake that Tyler was very serious with his abuse. I think Tyler’s fans are taking his comments very seriously too and if there is “intricate sarcasm” They’re not getting that either. We can’t keep up with the number of abusive, disgusting comments we are receiving on this site in defense of Tyler. Most can’t be published.

    • Yvonne
      Posted 8 Jun ’13 at 12:19 pm | Permalink

      Even if it was ‘intricate sarcasm’ or even overt ‘joking’ do you think that makes it acceptable to say any of the things this sicko says? A bully at school can’t use the defence ‘i was just joking’. ‘Bash and f–k old women, kidnap and rape a 2 year old’ woohoo! Wait, Its ok because i’m “only joking, just sacarasm”. C’mon get real. The words are getting out there, it gets into young people’s subconscience and gives further excitement to the already mental psychpaths who really do these awful things to others. The responses CS are getting from Tyler’s supporters prove that.

    • Carlene Neervoort
      Posted 10 Jun ’13 at 8:18 pm | Permalink

      Hi Lesley,
      How about we start a rap band of our own, then we can weave into our lyricks sarcasms about boys, just like Tylor did for girls. For example, hate boys, murder them, rape boys, cut their dicks and stick it on a stick. Do you think men would just cool out and not take it as inciting hate and violence towards boys?

  22. Claire
    Posted 8 Jun ’13 at 8:02 am | Permalink

    How sad it is to see young men acting out so agressively towards not only women but wanting to see other young men act agressively as well. Do they not have any kindness in their lives! This is a pure example of insighting to riot; I thought there were laws against that!!

    • Yvonne
      Posted 8 Jun ’13 at 12:23 pm | Permalink

      No REAL man treats women this way. Men who think and act like Tyler are COWARDS. Real men adore women. Kick him out of this country Julia Gillard please!!

  23. Annbelle
    Posted 8 Jun ’13 at 8:58 am | Permalink

    Female or male – feminist or not – this issue should repulse and anger everyone. Everything this rapper says is geared to incite violence, hatred and abuse towards women (and others). I encourage anyone who cares about the fact that thousands of people will pay money to attend his shows and hear these kinds of messages. I encourage everyone to write to their local minister and call their local television news stations to demand that this issue is exposed in all its ugliness. It’s too late for the media and politicians to stand on their soap box once women are raped and killed, like we saw with Gillian and Joan, we need the powers that be to make a stronger stand and PREVENT these horrors by changing societal standards.

  24. tory
    Posted 8 Jun ’13 at 9:01 am | Permalink

    Gillard is gutless. She can stand there in parliament and wag her finger declaring war at Abbott for standing near a sign that says ‘ditch the witch’, denouncing misogyny…and then give permission for a man to come into the country she leads, despite knowing that he will openly encourage people to abuse women, rape pregnant ladies and murder. What the?! When election time comes; let’s show spineless government what we think about leaders who refuse to take a stand agains this REAL kind of misogyny.

  25. john
    Posted 8 Jun ’13 at 11:01 am | Permalink

    What annoys me the most is people are making judgement about tyler and his lyrics just from this video they have not taken time to listen to his music. Basically he just takes the piss out of current styles of raps. He does his own thing. His been underground for quite a while and his music hasn’t changed one bit still producing crazy ass songs that are not meant to be taken to heart. Never abused a woman in his life and we condemned him but yet if you have ever seen football stars on a night out they act like barbarians and are still glorified. So either treat all the same.

    Also articles are making out that this is all he raps about. This is not true, he creates songs that a truly original.

    Point is
    Music don’t kill people
    People kill people

  26. Lauren
    Posted 8 Jun ’13 at 1:40 pm | Permalink

    Tyler creates stories in his songs; wolf, Salem, Sam. These are alter-egos that he uses to project self-fiction. Fiction that creates a story, a moral, a guideline. If you listen to his raps, most are of his personal inability to function normally – his struggle to grasp love, acceptance and meaning. The more controversial raps are an image he is afraid of – this is the person he does not want to be – it is very clear in his raps. He makes that doubly sure to live audiences. He gets angry easily, I know. But it is an image he has created for himself that seems to hide what he really is; accepting, insecure – normal. I’m not saying leave him alone, or to ‘get over’ what he has said… I’m saying it is very important to see ‘art’ as an outlet of pain – many watch violent movies, but are able to accurately grasp that the violence isn’t real. Tyler is FAMOUS for creating narratives in raps; the violence is not real, it is fiction. Censoring Tyler’s ability to function through his artwork would be opening the floodgates; do we censor all murder shows, movies about rape, torture, vilification? Such topics are deplorable; but having them in the spotlight is important to highlight their darkness.

    Not looking for hate, just adding my opinion.

    Let art be art.

  27. Paul
    Posted 8 Jun ’13 at 2:57 pm | Permalink

    Clearly this tour is not suitable for people under 18, and questions should be asked of the promoter as to why tickets have been made available to children.

  28. Joanne
    Posted 9 Jun ’13 at 3:10 am | Permalink

    You are all so dumb. If you don’t want to read al this, refer to last paragraph, sums it up.
    The name of the bottom video is misleading as he is quite obviously being sarcastic and joking with the audience because of the drama caused about him being in the country by mentioned protester.
    And in the top one, he’s being argumentative towards a woman who tried to stop him performing to HIS fans, and he’s pointing out that he won. I don’t really see him “attacking” her as he didn’t even know she was in the crowd . You all just take what is said too literally and seriously. Every person in the world has a different sense of humour, opinions and ideas of what can be called creative and artistic or generally what can be considered acceptable.
    Tyler does not actually promote or do the things mentioned in his songs, some are written from the perspectives and mind sets of serial killers he have read about, such as; Ted Bundy. Do you believe films depicting Ted Bundy’s life story are promotions by the directors/writers? No? Then how can you say that Tyler is when he is just doing it in a musical form.
    Some other lyrics are just general fiction, while others have underlying things you need to be able to grasp but you’re so focused on hating them and finding issue that you can’t.
    To finish I shall quote Stephen Fry:
    “It’s now very common to hear people say, ‘I’m rather offended by that.’, as if that gives them certain rights; it’s actually nothing more.. it’s simply a whine. It’s no more than a whine. ‘I find that offensive’, it has no meaning, it has no purpose, it has no reason to be respected as a phrase. ‘I am offended by that’ .. WELL SO FUCKING WHAT?”

    • Team CS
      Posted 9 Jun ’13 at 11:07 pm | Permalink

      Hi Joanne,

      The name of the bottom video is not misleading at all. The headline is about the behaviour of his fans, not the intentions of Tyler. The video is as you say and speaks for itself.

      And in the top video, he is not being argumentative. He is being abusive and intimidating. This is not about being “offended.” This is incitement to crime and it should be taken seriously.

    • Joanne
      Posted 10 Jun ’13 at 10:10 am | Permalink

      But It began by you finding his musical lyrics offensive though and attempting to stop him performing to his fans, which include women and girls, because YOU found it offensive.
      Can you not understand that concept at all? Just because you as a group of people find something offensive doesn’t mean everyone else does and there can be different understandings.
      I totally support your opinion and your right to be disgusted by the lyrics and what ever but don’t try and push that on to other people who view them different. And in turn you should respect that some people hear different meanings coming through. Just don’t listen to the music yourself, it is that simple. All you resulted in was putting money in his pocket by purchasing a ticket to make your silly videos. You say that you are doing this to bring attention to “misogyny” and the glorification of rape but it boils down to you finding it offensive and feeling that you have the right for it to be stopped everywhere but you don’t.
      Opinions are like belly buttons, everybody got one and the only way to live with that is to accept and respect it.

  29. LeBron James
    Posted 9 Jun ’13 at 4:12 am | Permalink

    This website sucks. Bunch of close-minded, ignorant geezers. Don’t hate on a person who is just trying to get his money and feed his family! Regardless, it’s your sheep-like people that bite into his music anyways.

    • Carlene Neervoort
      Posted 18 Jun ’13 at 9:23 pm | Permalink

      Hi James,
      What about the girl who was raped after one of his concerts? Do you think she would think that the people who protested about Tayler promoting rape, are a bunch of close-minded, ignorant geezers? If he promoted rape of boys where would your stand be???

  30. dickens
    Posted 9 Jun ’13 at 5:38 am | Permalink

    Good god, CS is really just a bunch of crazed butthurt nationalists. Shove your ‘i dont want this man in my country’ bs where the sun doesnt shine. He even went to the length to express that they were wrong for cheering about the rape and killing comment as to show how the crowd is really just there for the music as opposed to a criminal sermon.

  31. Ivan
    Posted 9 Jun ’13 at 8:31 am | Permalink

    Why is Collective Shout so racist? The two protests I’ve heard about have both been directed at black people. Tyler & Tracey Morgan, calls had been made to cancel visas due to Collective Shout’s fear and intolerance of black people. I’m not surprised such a hateful group gets negetive feed back. I’d hate to think this organisation twisting the minds of impressionable young women and turning them into hate-filled knee jerkers. Isn’t it time we stood up against organisations like ‘Collective Shout’?

    • Team CS
      Posted 9 Jun ’13 at 10:57 pm | Permalink

      Really Ivan? Check out the content of the shows you’re talking about rather than the color of the artist’s skin. You might also like to read more about Kyle Sandilands, Alan Jones and James Franco. We’ve challenged all of them.

  32. Posted 9 Jun ’13 at 12:55 pm | Permalink

    The fact that this was open to under 18years should be seen as violating the regulations within the entertainment industry. If there aren’t such regulations, then there should be. I fully appreciate the concerns about not creating a nanny state and free speech. But rights and freedoms aren’t limitless. Not simply because of common decency (although that does stop me holding my tongue quite a bit) but because when your freedom encroaches on someone else’s rights and freedoms, some type of mechanisms must be applied to find an equilibrium and equality. So as a woman, my right to feel safe, to be free of abusive and public figures promoting activities that make me unsafe, are violated by this type of ‘entertainments’. As a mother of 2 daughters, their rights are and their freedom to grow up in a society at values their potential and capacities and equality is seriously encroached upon by this type of entertainment. Allowing this is just on the same thin edge as seeing it as ok for people to ‘view child pornograpgy’ because they argue they aren’t actually harming the person. Well, in both circumstances, allowing this entertainment to be open to under 18s and to not receive serious community outrage damages the rights and freedom of all women and children

  33. anne
    Posted 11 Jun ’13 at 10:45 am | Permalink

    we support you and pray for you

  34. panda jake
    Posted 14 Jun ’13 at 4:19 am | Permalink

    You do realise he says most of his songs right off the top of his head an they have no bareing on things he’s actually done and the majority of his music is ment to piss off uptight people,old folkes and overly sensitive people this includes any type of organizations that they might also be tied to wether news or anything else for that matter. Also in his albums he even says not to do the stuf he says and f-k bill o’reilly another direct person he has said something about except he wasnt angry at a concert ready to do his songs which are extreamly violent words “words” ladies and gentlemen and it just so happends miss stone was on the receving end of his anger and his words for trying to kick him out of a place that he probably never thought he would visit for a concert he was getting paid to do so yes i can imagine some one who creates songs like his would have quite the reaction

  35. mark
    Posted 14 Jun ’13 at 3:35 pm | Permalink

    He may be using lyrics to increase his publicity as some suggest, but bottom line is this – everyone who likes him, including himself, are still singing these lyrics. To write lyrics like that, one must think its “cool” to be abusive. You don’t write lyrics like that if you don’t speak like that. If you’re enjoying the songs, you’re sharing in the lyrics. Is that how you speak to others? To me it betrays your values. And his values, or lack thereof. It’s pathetic and immature and certainly doesn’t encourage healthy social dynamics. If you think it’s harmless and “cool”, perhaps you need to seriously look at yourself in the mirror.

  36. Angelo
    Posted 14 Jun ’13 at 5:54 pm | Permalink

    So much anger and violence celebrated by a mob. I’m more sorry for the mindless Australians who cheered that performance on. They should get a life.

  37. JJ
    Posted 25 Jun ’13 at 9:27 pm | Permalink

    More like Tyler the Cretin.

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